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Overview The translated histories identify Tan Tai as an aristocrat, general, and official. This record brings together 34 passages from 1 chapter across 1 history, with names, dates, relationships, offices, and events preserved as source-backed claims.
Names Type English Chinese Pinyin
Personal
Tan Tai
譚泰
Tán Tài
Title
Grand General for the Southern Campaign
征南大將軍
Title
Minister of Personnel
吏部尚書
Clan
Šumuru
舒穆祿氏
Surname
Tan
譚
Tán
Personal
Tan Tai
譚泰
Tan Tai
Identity
Historicity Historical
Identification Named
Sex Male Roles Aristocrat General Official Life and dates Death Attested activity Source Date: Text: 何洛會之獄，譚泰證之Western Year: AD 1651
Source Date: Text: 天聰八年Western Year: AD 1634
Source Date: Text: 定金聲桓、王得仁之亂Western Year: AD 1649
Family
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Kin of Ashan (阿山) Kinship Term: father-in-law / 婦翁Subject Role: father-in-lawObject Role: son-in-law
Spouse of Wife of Tan Tai Kinship Term: wife / 妻Union Category: marriageSubject Role: wifeObject Role: husband
Sibling of Tan Bu (譚布) Kinship Term: younger brother / 弟Subject Role: elder-brotherObject Role: younger-brotherSubject Relative Age: elder
Kin of Yangguli (揚古利) Kinship Term: younger cousin / 從弟Subject Role: younger-cousinObject Role: elder-cousin
Sibling of Younger Sister of Tan Tai Kinship Term: younger sister / 女弟Subject Role: younger-sisterObject Role: elder-brotherSubject Relative Age: younger
Career and standing Label: sole commander / 專將
Label: bayara janggin / 巴牙喇章京Action: appointedDate Context: Source Date: Text: 天聰八年Western Year: AD 1634
Label: Minister of Personnel / 吏部尚書Action: appointedDate Context: Source Date: Text: 順治七年Western Year: AD 1650
Label: Grand General for the Southern Campaign / 征南大將軍Action: appointedDate Context: Source Date: Text: 順治五年Western Year: AD 1648
Label: banner commander / 固山額真Action: appointed
Label: company commander / 牛錄額真Action: appointed
Title: first-class duke / 一等公Action: grantedDate Context: Source Date: Text: 順治元年Western Year: AD 1644
Status: confiscationAction: household confiscatedDate Context: Source Date: Text: 順治八年Western Year: AD 1651
Places and affiliations Label: Qing / 清Relation: served
Polity: Qing / 清Relation: served
Organization: Plain Yellow Banner / 正黃旗Relation: member-of
Works and attributed material Kind: speech ·
Role: speaker ·
Speaker Person Id: Tan Tai (譚泰) Events and relationships Kind: militaryRole: commanderAction: besiegedPlace: Nanchang / 南昌
Kind: military ·
Role: commander ·
Action: defeated ·
Other Person Id: Jin Shenghuan (金聲桓) ·
Place: Jiujiang / 九江 ·
Date Context: Source Date: Text: 順治五年Western Year: AD 1648Kind: militaryRole: commanderAction: put-down-rebellionLabel: put down the rebellion of Jin Shenghuan and Wang Deren / 定金聲桓、王得仁之亂
Kind: legal ·
Role: witness ·
Action: testified ·
Other Person Id: He Luohui (何洛會) ·
Label: testified in He Luohui's case / 何洛會之獄，譚泰證之Relation: patron-client ·
Person Id: Dorgon (多爾袞) ·
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Draft History of Qing, Chapter 246 Volume 246 Biographies 33: Tan Tai, He Luohui, Xi Tu Ku, Bo Er Hui, Leng Sengji · 34 passages
譚泰，舒穆祿氏，滿洲正黃旗人，揚古利從弟也。
Tan Tai, of the Šumuru clan, belonged to the Plain Yellow Banner; he was Yangguli's younger cousin.
濟馬護囑譚泰入奏，譚泰匿不以聞，濟馬護訴於上，上責譚泰曰：「爾為朕耳目，凡事當無隱。
Jimalu asked Tan Tai to present the matter in memorial; Tan Tai kept it back and did not report it. When Jimalu appealed to the throne, the emperor rebuked Tan Tai: "You are my eyes and ears—nothing should be hidden from me.
復從上伐朝鮮，朝鮮王棄城走，譚泰率師入其城，盡收其輜重。
He joined the sovereign's Korean campaign; when the king fled, Tan Tai entered the capital and seized the entire baggage train.
輔國將軍鞏阿岱，濟馬護兄也，譚泰與相詬於禁門，坐罰。
Gongadai, Jimalu's elder brother and an auxiliary state general, traded insults with Tan Tai at the palace gate; Tan Tai was fined.
六年，從圍錦州，譚泰將四百人自小凌河直抵海濱，絕明兵歸路。
In the sixth year, at Jinzhou, he took four hundred men down the Xiaoling to the coast and severed the Ming line of retreat.
睿親王攝政，譚泰與巴牙喇纛章京圖賴、啟心郎索尼並見信任。
Under Prince Rui's regency Tan Tai, together with Tulai, chief of the bayara guard, and Sonin the investigatory secretary, all enjoyed the prince's trust.
固山額真何洛會誣肅親王豪格怨譚泰等不附己，訐之睿親王，王謂譚泰忠，益信任之。
Banner commander He Luohui alleged that Prince Su Hooge resented Tan Tai's refusal to follow him and reported it to Prince Rui, who called Tan Tai loyal and relied on him still more.
大學士希福忤譚泰，希福欲易賜第，譚泰不可，希福誚之，益怒。
Grand Secretary Hifu crossed Tan Tai; when Hifu sought to swap his granted mansion and Tan Tai refused, Hifu taunted him and Tan Tai's wrath only deepened.
其弟譚布以希福述睿親王自言過誤告譚泰，譚泰訐之法司，希福坐黜。
His brother Tan Bu told him that Hifu had repeated Prince Rui's own admission of faults; Tan Tai reported it to the courts and Hifu was removed.
二年，英親王阿濟格坐奏軍事不實得罪，命譚泰與鰲拜等集眾宣其罪。
In the second year Prince Ying Ajige was condemned for false military reports; Tan Tai and Oboi were told to gather the court and announce his guilt.
譚泰匿諭旨不以示眾，索尼發其罪，降世職昂邦章京，奪官。
Tan Tai withheld the edict from the assembly; when Sonin exposed him he was reduced to angbang banner colonel and dismissed.
譚泰怨索尼，訐索尼於內庫牧馬鼓琴及禁門橋下捕魚，索尼亦坐黜。
Tan Tai turned on Sonin, accusing him of grazing horses and playing music in the inner storehouse and fishing under the palace bridge; Sonin was removed as well.
譚泰復起為本旗固山額真。
Tan Tai was soon back as banner commander of his regiment.
初，師下江南，譚泰自西安逐捕流寇，慮不與平江南功，使謂圖賴曰：「我軍道迂險，後至。
When the army went south, Tan Tai was chasing rebels from Xi'an and feared missing the Jiangnan campaign; he sent word to Tulai: "Our march was long and hard—we came late.
圖賴書告索尼，使啟睿親王，或發觀之，懼譚泰得罪，毀其書勿使達索尼。
Tulai wrote Sonin to raise it with Prince Rui; someone who saw the letter, fearing for Tan Tai, destroyed it before it reached Sonin.
譚泰又坐與婦翁固山額真阿山遣巫者治病。
Tan Tai was further charged because his father-in-law, banner commander Ashan, had employed a shaman for healing.
譚泰曰：「王若拯我，我殺身報王！」
Tan Tai said, "If you spare me, I will repay you with my life!"
金聲桓叛江西，授譚泰征南大將軍，率師討之。
When Jin Shenghuan rose in Jiangxi, Tan Tai was made grand general of the southern expedition and marched against him.
聲桓以步騎七萬人抗我師，譚泰督諸軍與戰，次九江，大敗聲桓兵，獲其舟以濟師。
Shenghuan met him with seventy thousand foot and horse; at Jiujiang Tan Tai crushed his army and took his boats to cross the river.
譚泰師將至贛州，聞成棟入信豐，譚泰遣諸將乘勝襲擊，成棟兵潰，溺水死，克信豐。
Near Ganzhou Tan Tai learned Chengdong was at Xinfeng; he sent generals in pursuit, Chengdong's force broke, he drowned, and Xinfeng was taken.
七年，睿親王薨，上命吏、刑、工三部增設滿洲尚書各一，授譚泰吏部尚書。
In the seventh year, after Prince Rui's death, the throne added a Manchu minister to each of the Personnel, Punishments, and Works boards; Tan Tai became Minister of Personnel.
八年，世祖親政，追論睿親王罪狀，大學士剛林、祁充格皆坐誅，罪不及譚泰。
In the eighth year the Shizu took power and prosecuted Prince Rui's crimes; Gang Lin and Qi Chongge were executed, but Tan Tai was not implicated.
時圖賴已卒，索尼方罪廢，譚泰毀圖賴墓室，洩舊忿。
Tulai was dead and Sonin had just been disgraced; Tan Tai wrecked Tulai's tomb, settling an old score.
譚泰袒名夏，讞上，命未下，譚泰前奏，言煊劾皆虛，且所舉諸事皆在赦前，煊以外轉嫌，誣名夏等死罪，當反坐，煊遂見法。
Tan Tai protected Mingxia; before the sentence was issued he argued that Zhang's charges were false and predated the amnesty—that Zhang, posted elsewhere, bore a grudge and had framed Mingxia for death, and should suffer the penalty himself; Zhang was executed.
譚泰愈縱恣，岳爾多其妻弟也，襲一等精奇尼哈番，為奪其族人法喀應襲一等阿思哈尼哈番合併為三等侯；
Tan Tai grew bolder still; his brother-in-law Yuerduo held a first-class jingqi nihaan—Tan Tai seized from his kinsman Faka a first-class ashan nihaan due him and merged both into a third-class marquis;
上自譚泰袒陳名夏構張煊，心厭惡之。
Since Tan Tai had shielded Chen Mingxia and destroyed Zhang Xuan, the emperor had come to loathe him.
鰲拜复訐譚泰阿附睿親王及營私擅政諸狀，讞皆實。
Oboi further charged Tan Tai with siding with Prince Rui and ruling for private gain; every count was sustained.
王大臣議誅譚泰及其子孫，上命誅譚泰，籍其家，子孫貸連坐。
The princes and ministers voted death for Tan Tai and his line; the emperor executed Tan Tai, confiscated his estate, and spared his descendants collective punishment.
命佐譚泰定江西，擊破金聲桓、王得仁、李成棟，事具譚泰傳。
He was ordered to aid Tan Tai in pacifying Jiangxi, defeating Jin Shenghuan, Wang Deren, and Li Chengdong—as recounted in Tan Tai's biography.
尚書譚泰聞其語。
Minister Tan Tai heard what he said.
譚泰、錫翰各以何洛會語告，又追論誣告肅親王罪，與其兄胡錫並磔死，籍其家。
Tan Tai and Xi Han repeated his words; his false charge against Prince Su was reviewed as well; he and his brother Husu were executed by dismemberment and their estates seized.
譚泰訐索尼，引冷僧機為證，謝未聞，坐徇庇，當削世職籍沒，上貰之。
When Tan Tai denounced Sonin and called Leng Sengji as witness, he pleaded ignorance; though liable to lose rank and estate for favoritism, the emperor spared him.
論曰：定金聲桓、王得仁之亂，譚泰專將，何洛會為之佐。
The commentators say: In putting down Jin Shenghuan and Wang Deren, Tan Tai commanded alone and He Luohui assisted him.
睿親王既薨，諸阿附者乃互相傾，何洛會之獄，譚泰證之；
After Prince Rui's death his followers turned on one another; Tan Tai testified in He Luohui's case;